I read somewhere that it's "suppose" to be here in the States about June/July for sale. Seeing is believing! Like Honda doesn't have enough "new" toys coming out this year.Is that a bike that is in production or just or just and engineers dream and will it be sold in the USA
Nice but not the dino. I do however like the honda ctx1300
Well, the forum members quantity is seems just OK. The HFT precursor was released in Honda's quads and the DCT is the new one, almost the same like VW DSG transmission. I've heard it's really faulty. What we have now, about transmission:The silhouette of the NM4 is identical to the DN-01 except it has shaper edges. The nomencature of the NM4 is: NC700J, just another member of the NC700 series of bikes. The DN-01 is what it is, there is no competition! If Honda had priced the DN-01 right when it first came out, we'd have more members on this forum!
I completely agree, its only a shame Honda gave up on the HFT. But as I posted on another site I think the HFT was too much like a CVT transmission feel. DCT was more likely to be adopted by the geared bikers because it feels like a geared bike only automatic, rather than the constant seamless feel of the HFT.Well, the forum members quantity is seems just OK. The HFT precursor was released in Honda's quads and the DCT is the new one, almost the same like VW DSG transmission. I've heard it's really faulty. What we have now, about transmission:
Pros:
1) Seamless shifting
2) The same cc and hp as most DCT bikes
3) Potentially more reliable design, tested for years on Honda ATV's and hydraulic auto cars.
Cons:
1) Probably, if you want REALLY more hp/tq/cc, the HFT size become too much for the bike or it just can't handle it.
I have 70000 km on my bike and I still have my oil clean after 5000km from oil change. Who did not bought DN, well, it's their troubles. DN was the first auto transmission bike, and I still think, the most reliable. It's always hard to be the first. But I count on it. I don't want to change DN on everything, include HD.
I also have a 2014 ctx700 with DCT in addition to my dino in the garage, and I really like the DCT. Other than being chain drive it is a perfect bike. Honda's DCT has been around at least since the 2010 Honda vfr1200F sportbike, so really not that "new". And the ctx is far quicker than the dino is when racing them side by side
Plus at 64 mpgs (some forum guys are getting over 70mpgs...!) Honda has come up with another impressive bike.I couldn't agree with you more ... chain vs shaft and 500 lbs vs 600 lbs. CTX 700 probably has a higher top end too.
I try... and.. one word "shit". This is ordynary transmission with double clutch. Gears turn on with "click" and tug. I do not recommend.Definitely a backward step in my book. Has anyone tried DCT and liked it?